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		<title>By: Justine Larbalestier &#187; A New Musing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine Larbalestier &#187; A New Musing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 03:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tingle Alley&#8217;s posts and comments on acknowledgements got me all inspired and I wrote a new musing about it. Enjoy and feel free to comment on it here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Edward Champion&#8217;s Return of the Reluctant &#187; The Bat Segundo Show #4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Champion&#8217;s Return of the Reluctant &#187; The Bat Segundo Show #4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 20:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Subjects Discussed: Stalking, dark comedy, intense behavior, Harriet Klausner, chick lit, keeping lists, sex, the politically incorrect, the menage a trois, class-based characters, free time, book tours, the relationship between publishers and online literary venues, FSG and Christopher Sorrentino&#8217;s Trance, the next generation of writers (McSweeney&#8217;s as homogeneous voice?), the telegenic requirements of writers, the cult of personality, clarifying the &#8220;Reading at Risk&#8221; controversy, the intentions of Bookmark Now, literary standards vs. enthusiasm, the Iliad as logline, responding to the &#8220;writing in unreaderly times&#8221; flap, individual vs. group reading, explaning the Nicholson Baker acknowledment. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Subjects Discussed: Stalking, dark comedy, intense behavior, Harriet Klausner, chick lit, keeping lists, sex, the politically incorrect, the menage a trois, class-based characters, free time, book tours, the relationship between publishers and online literary venues, FSG and Christopher Sorrentino&#8217;s Trance, the next generation of writers (McSweeney&#8217;s as homogeneous voice?), the telegenic requirements of writers, the cult of personality, clarifying the &#8220;Reading at Risk&#8221; controversy, the intentions of Bookmark Now, literary standards vs. enthusiasm, the Iliad as logline, responding to the &#8220;writing in unreaderly times&#8221; flap, individual vs. group reading, explaning the Nicholson Baker acknowledment. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Baratz-Logsted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren Baratz-Logsted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a sucker for writing Acks, even though I&#039;ve been burned in cases where by the time the book is pubbed the relationships have soured or, ahem, the agent has been fired (twice). But I go on being Pollyanna, a kitchen-sink Ack-er who will go on thanking nearly everyone in Warner Bros style until the hook yanks me off the stage. That said, I&#039;ve consciously in the past avoided Ack-ing the more famous people I know - although I do plan on dedicating a book to one of them at one point - because I figured I might not be doing them such a great favor: &quot;Hey, guys, Turow and Cunningham may be too busy to help anyone, but let&#039;s all go sic Author X - he&#039;s a sap!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a sucker for writing Acks, even though I&#8217;ve been burned in cases where by the time the book is pubbed the relationships have soured or, ahem, the agent has been fired (twice). But I go on being Pollyanna, a kitchen-sink Ack-er who will go on thanking nearly everyone in Warner Bros style until the hook yanks me off the stage. That said, I&#8217;ve consciously in the past avoided Ack-ing the more famous people I know &#8211; although I do plan on dedicating a book to one of them at one point &#8211; because I figured I might not be doing them such a great favor: &#8220;Hey, guys, Turow and Cunningham may be too busy to help anyone, but let&#8217;s all go sic Author X &#8211; he&#8217;s a sap!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CAAF</title>
		<link>http://www.tinglealley.com/?p=800&#038;cpage=1#comment-30978</link>
		<dc:creator>CAAF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. I meant to say, Justine, that I remember reading an article recently that tracked the dedicatees of a certain novel. Or maybe an author was himself fessing up to swapping names over editions ... but I can&#039;t remember where.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. I meant to say, Justine, that I remember reading an article recently that tracked the dedicatees of a certain novel. Or maybe an author was himself fessing up to swapping names over editions &#8230; but I can&#8217;t remember where.</p>
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		<title>By: CAAF</title>
		<link>http://www.tinglealley.com/?p=800&#038;cpage=1#comment-30977</link>
		<dc:creator>CAAF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenny, I do need to read &lt;em&gt;Heredity&lt;/em&gt; -- I can&#039;t wait to! And I&#039;ve heard awfully nice things about JCO and glad that she came to the rescue at a low time; she seems genuinely interested in being a mentor, which is big of her considering her own hypergraphic schedule. (p.s. I&#039;ve replied sort of to your comment also in the post above, responding to Justine, vis a vis the lengthy time to produce a novel and the ensuing increase in one&#039;s acknowledgments. Sorry about that vis a vis by the way; yuck.) I want to hear more about the Coetzee – and sometime when I&#039;m in Manhattan I&#039;ll tell you my funny Caz Phillips story, which isn&#039;t really that funny but may seem so after one or two drinks. 

Michael, speaking of scholarly books, I&#039;m reading one quasi-scholarly volume now, and as a friend pointed out who was looking at it, it&#039;s odd as the author thanks Iain Pears (Instance of the Fingerpost) in the acknowledgments. I don&#039;t know why we found this amusing/interesting; perhaps just as a non sequiter... I hope they never compare sales totals. It would be dismaying for a scholar,  I imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenny, I do need to read <em>Heredity</em> &#8212; I can&#8217;t wait to! And I&#8217;ve heard awfully nice things about JCO and glad that she came to the rescue at a low time; she seems genuinely interested in being a mentor, which is big of her considering her own hypergraphic schedule. (p.s. I&#8217;ve replied sort of to your comment also in the post above, responding to Justine, vis a vis the lengthy time to produce a novel and the ensuing increase in one&#8217;s acknowledgments. Sorry about that vis a vis by the way; yuck.) I want to hear more about the Coetzee – and sometime when I&#8217;m in Manhattan I&#8217;ll tell you my funny Caz Phillips story, which isn&#8217;t really that funny but may seem so after one or two drinks. </p>
<p>Michael, speaking of scholarly books, I&#8217;m reading one quasi-scholarly volume now, and as a friend pointed out who was looking at it, it&#8217;s odd as the author thanks Iain Pears (Instance of the Fingerpost) in the acknowledgments. I don&#8217;t know why we found this amusing/interesting; perhaps just as a non sequiter&#8230; I hope they never compare sales totals. It would be dismaying for a scholar,  I imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read acknowledgments all the time, and for the same reason: somehow, some way my mind tells me that the mentioning of certain names will legitimize a book, which, of course, isn&#039;t logical, but I do it anyway. (When I was a wayward academic, I always checked the acknowledgments in scholarly books to make sure the &quot;big names&quot; were there; and, if they weren&#039;t, I&#039;d unfairly assume that perhaps the book in hand wasn&#039;t as good as it could be.) As far as knowing the person acknowledged, I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s necessary. If and when I published a book, I just might make a nod to John Milton, even though he&#039;s been dead for 330 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read acknowledgments all the time, and for the same reason: somehow, some way my mind tells me that the mentioning of certain names will legitimize a book, which, of course, isn&#8217;t logical, but I do it anyway. (When I was a wayward academic, I always checked the acknowledgments in scholarly books to make sure the &#8220;big names&#8221; were there; and, if they weren&#8217;t, I&#8217;d unfairly assume that perhaps the book in hand wasn&#8217;t as good as it could be.) As far as knowing the person acknowledged, I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s necessary. If and when I published a book, I just might make a nod to John Milton, even though he&#8217;s been dead for 330 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justine, I was really happy when one of the blurbs on the UK edition of my novel named Georgette Heyer--she&#039;s alluded to in the novel (which is completely un-Heyer like in its vibe) as well, her books are really unbeatable of their kind...  I am sort of ashamed of my acknowledgments for HEREDITY.  Basically it took me 10 years to write that novel (if you count from when I first started researching to when it was actually published--real writing time more like 4 years, which still sounds discouragingly slow).  So my acknowledgments are ridiculously long, especially because I was SHAMEFULLY ready to approach any writer I met and ask them to read my manuscript.  I am really mortified in retrospect--because I was at a fancy grad school doing my PhD, it meant I came across a lot of ridiculously well-known writers and pestered them.  I was young and foolish and they were all really kind and didn&#039;t tell me to buzz off!  Believe me, I am not boasting, just confessing my shamefully forward requests to (among others, God this is embarrassing) J. M. Coetzee, John Hollander, Caryl Phillips and Joyce Carol Oates!  How awful of me... I must say that Joyce Carol Oates in particular gave me great encouragement at a low point when I had despaired of ever getting the damn thing published, but the others were really good too.  As a result I now read pretty much anything anyone asks me to, out of shame and retrospective gratitude.  CAAF, you definitely must include James W. in yours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justine, I was really happy when one of the blurbs on the UK edition of my novel named Georgette Heyer&#8211;she&#8217;s alluded to in the novel (which is completely un-Heyer like in its vibe) as well, her books are really unbeatable of their kind&#8230;  I am sort of ashamed of my acknowledgments for HEREDITY.  Basically it took me 10 years to write that novel (if you count from when I first started researching to when it was actually published&#8211;real writing time more like 4 years, which still sounds discouragingly slow).  So my acknowledgments are ridiculously long, especially because I was SHAMEFULLY ready to approach any writer I met and ask them to read my manuscript.  I am really mortified in retrospect&#8211;because I was at a fancy grad school doing my PhD, it meant I came across a lot of ridiculously well-known writers and pestered them.  I was young and foolish and they were all really kind and didn&#8217;t tell me to buzz off!  Believe me, I am not boasting, just confessing my shamefully forward requests to (among others, God this is embarrassing) J. M. Coetzee, John Hollander, Caryl Phillips and Joyce Carol Oates!  How awful of me&#8230; I must say that Joyce Carol Oates in particular gave me great encouragement at a low point when I had despaired of ever getting the damn thing published, but the others were really good too.  As a result I now read pretty much anything anyone asks me to, out of shame and retrospective gratitude.  CAAF, you definitely must include James W. in yours!</p>
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		<title>By: Justine Larbalestier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine Larbalestier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love checking out acknowledgments and dedications! I&#039;m always grumpy with writers who don&#039;t thank anyone.

Extra points when you spot the same name on the back blurbing the book and inside being acknowledged. We live in a small and incestous world.

There&#039;s one sf author who&#039;s, let&#039;s say, tempermental and is forever changing the dedicatee of a book as it goes through different editions. If you can get your hands on all different editions of a particular books you can trace the paths of this writer&#039;s friendships with some dedicatees being dropped and then reinstated and then dropped again. Fabulous.

Absolutely, you don&#039;t have to know a person to acknowledge them. I&#039;m going to start putting Georgette Heyer in my acks, she&#039;s probably the biggest influence on my writing. Her or Enid Blyton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love checking out acknowledgments and dedications! I&#8217;m always grumpy with writers who don&#8217;t thank anyone.</p>
<p>Extra points when you spot the same name on the back blurbing the book and inside being acknowledged. We live in a small and incestous world.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one sf author who&#8217;s, let&#8217;s say, tempermental and is forever changing the dedicatee of a book as it goes through different editions. If you can get your hands on all different editions of a particular books you can trace the paths of this writer&#8217;s friendships with some dedicatees being dropped and then reinstated and then dropped again. Fabulous.</p>
<p>Absolutely, you don&#8217;t have to know a person to acknowledge them. I&#8217;m going to start putting Georgette Heyer in my acks, she&#8217;s probably the biggest influence on my writing. Her or Enid Blyton.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 16:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You remind me of one of my all-time fave Loudon Wainwright songs: The Grammy Song (c. 1981):

Last night I dreamed I won a Grammy
It was presented to me by Debbie Harry
I ran up on stage in my tux
I gulped and I said &quot;Aw Shucks.
I&#039;d like to thank my producer...and Jesus Christ.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You remind me of one of my all-time fave Loudon Wainwright songs: The Grammy Song (c. 1981):</p>
<p>Last night I dreamed I won a Grammy<br />
It was presented to me by Debbie Harry<br />
I ran up on stage in my tux<br />
I gulped and I said &#8220;Aw Shucks.<br />
I&#8217;d like to thank my producer&#8230;and Jesus Christ.&#8221;</p>
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