I humbly submit: Diana Ross, Roberta Flack and Salt-n-Pepa.

2/4/2005

I humbly submit: Diana Ross, Roberta Flack and Salt-n-Pepa.

Filed under: Schwarmerei — caaf @ 2:31 pm

I heart the Emma.

Comments (15)

15 Comments

Damn straight. And any list of 500 songs that has only one Aretha Franklin track on it isn’t worth anyone’s time. More omissions: The Pointer Sisters, Martha and the Vandellas. (One nitpick: I’m pretty sure it’s Salt-N-Pepa.)

Comment by Walter Biggins — 2/4/2005 @ 4:15 pm
Walter, thanks. I’ve fixed. I think I enjoy saying Salt-n-PEPPPPPPPA so much (emphasis supplied) that I distrusted my spelling urges & went straight.

Yay on the Pointer Sisters! I forgot & I love. I think I finally reached the point with them where I can listen & enjoy without having huge ’80s flashbacks.

Comment by CAAF — 2/4/2005 @ 4:27 pm
As a woman, I can understand why you might rush to judge and label this list as a little “heavy in the loafers” so to speak. Although as a music listener, I am mortified at the thought of the Pointer Sisters being the group you felt was most overlooked.

I would like to point out that there are over 40 songs on the top 500 list by female performers (including bands like Smashing Pumpkins, Sonic Youth, Talking Heads, X, Pixies, Velvet Underground, and White Stripes), as well as several homosexuals, cross-dressers, and Prince. The individual contributors’ lists also featured more ladies; mine had at least 35 songs by female performers.

Ultimately, though, it’s just one blogger’s opinion; one blogger who spent a lot of time compiling a list because he was bored and disappointed at someone else’s list. He didn’t just blog about how Rolling Stone left off “Funky Cold Medina.”

My point is, if you feel the same, I can only suggest you make and publish your own list.

Well, I could make other, more vulgar suggestions, but I won’t.

Comment by Kittenpants — 2/4/2005 @ 5:30 pm
hey Kittenpants,

No, I like a lot about the list. Don’t get me wrong. There’s a lot of great music on there. And I think highly of the contributors that I do know (which includes one of my faves Dennis DiClaudio who gave the list a shout-out from Maud’s last week). Also, I did see and note the women artists you name (which included Sinead O’Connor, who I think is so often unfairly maligned that it was great to see her).

I just think ultimately 40 out of 500 is a poor ratio, you know? And I don’t believe it’s unseemly to say so, or somehow equitable to whining about “Funky Cold Medina.”

Anyway, my post was meant to be more pro-woman-artist and thinking about cool people to include than anti-the-list. You’re right: I should probably make my own.

Comment by CAAF — 2/4/2005 @ 6:39 pm
Sorry if you are getting the brunt of the response to several annoying comments – there were certainly other things said that were more unfair than what was on your blog, as well as some jerky shit that didn’t make sense at all. Yours was the first I felt deserved an honest response, rather than a total ignore. And any excuse to mention “Funky Cold Medina” is good enough for me.

Comment by Kittenpants — 2/4/2005 @ 6:49 pm
It was the Pointer Sisters that pushed you over the edge, wasn’t it?

Comment by CAAF — 2/4/2005 @ 6:58 pm
Yeah, frankly I glaze over for most lists that “explore” this much detail. I even linked to it and I only skimmed here or there. But I would have to throw up a pretty strong hell yes for all the artists Emma (and you) name and add Neko Case, Kristin Hersh and Shonen Knife. For starters.

Comment by gwenda — 2/4/2005 @ 8:46 pm
hey Ms. G (aka Captain Tightpants), I meant to tell you that I wanted to listen to the playlists you & Jeff put up but am stymied as that service seems to have a lot of trouble with iTunes (which is the only program of the ones available I can run right now).

Comment by CAAF — 2/4/2005 @ 9:05 pm
I tried to comment over at the actual list but I couldn’t be doing with the blogger sign in thing. Anyway, Kittenpants, there’s nothing vaginacentric about my music collection – I was simply offering some balance and highlighting some startling omissions. And a resounding 8% total even when including bands in which women are neither the creative force nor the front people? Not a terribly compelling rebuttal…

Comment by Emma — 2/4/2005 @ 9:16 pm
Not to drag this out any further, but you SHOULD highlight whatever bands you feel were overlooked, both male and female. I can assure you there are plenty of both I would have added to the list had I been in charge. Which brings me back to my original point, that a good thing to do would be to make your own list, rather than equally non-compelling sarcastic remarks about our navel-gazing and how Garbage should be considered on anyone’s Top-anything list. That’s all.

Comment by kittenpants — 2/4/2005 @ 10:30 pm
I just realized this morning that I have forgotten to actually mail the package with So Yesterday in it to you, Ms. C, so I’ll throw in a couple of mix CDs as well. Perhaps even those playlists if I can get my computer to cooperate. I am really loving Blue Rubies right now (and might even put the song “When You Were Mine” on a list, so there).

Comment by gwenda — 2/4/2005 @ 10:52 pm
That’d be awesome. Thanks!

Comment by CAAF — 2/4/2005 @ 10:54 pm
No problem.

Oh, and of course, the Blue Rubies song is a Prince cover. (But much better, actually.) So the you should be a “U”. That Prince and his spelling hijinx.

Comment by gwenda — 2/4/2005 @ 11:00 pm
Isn’t When U Were Mine Prince doing a cover of Mitch Ryder and the Wheels or do I need more sleep?

Enjoy,

Comment by Dan Wickett — 2/5/2005 @ 6:27 pm
I’m almost certain that Prince wrote it. And if you google the lyrics they’re all in his weird modern teenager writing style.

Comment by gwenda — 2/6/2005 @ 11:59 am

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